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The Strip Mining Era of LLMs—And Why It’s About to End | E2141

21.06.2025
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Today’s show:

AI has been feasting on the open web—but is the free lunch over? In this explosive episode, @Jason and @alex call out OpenAI and others for “strip mining” the internet’s content without paying creators. As lawsuits pile up and new defenses like AI-robots.txt emerge, a reckoning looms. Will AI be forced to pay for its training data? Dive into the legal, ethical, and business implications—including Substack’s stance, Cloudflare’s firewall, and Perplexity’s lawsuits—in what may be a turning point for the future of the web.

Timestamps:

() Concerns about AI data sourcing and sustainability() Recent travels and airline industry insights() Meta's AI strategy and market competition

() LinkedIn Jobs - Post your first job for free at https://www.linkedin.com/twist() Meta's financial moves and AI focus() Midjourney's advancements in video AI

() Northwest Registered Agent. Form your entire business identity in just 10 clicks and 10 minutes. Get more privacy, more options, and more done—visit northwestregisteredagent.com/twist today!() Twist 500 companies and Cloudflare's anti-AI scraping tool() AI scraping: creator impact and regulation debate

() Retool - Visit https://www.retool.com/twist and try it out today.() BBC lawsuit and Perplexity's AI challenges() Office hours with Giram Taitana of Doctours() Medical tourism: Psilocybin, IVF, and consumer trust() Design's role in trust and safety for medical platforms() Doctours' fundraising and insurance strategies() SEO and domain name tips for startups() Tesla's robo taxi launch and implications() Andy Jassy on AI's impact on employment() Discussing global job displacement and China's youth unemployment() The gig economy in the age of advanced AI

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